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		<title>Comment on Transition and activism: my response to Rob Hopkins by Luke Devlin</title>
		<link>http://www.lukedevlin.org/home/2011/05/transition-and-activism-my-response-to-rob-hopkins/comment-page-1/#comment-1000</link>
		<dc:creator>Luke Devlin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Jun 2011 08:32:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>my additional comment over at Transition Culture: 

like any political group, Transition has diversity of values and beliefs. But Transition is almost entirely ‘green meme’ in Spiral Dynamics language although Spiral Dynamics is worthless in my opinion- even Wilber doesn’t use it any more- but you get what I mean (btw check out Esbjorn-Hargen and Zimmerman’s Integral Ecology if you haven’t yet- the only integral theory worth reading since SES- and Wilber himself is not useful on ecology.)

I agree of course on valuing different perspectives, and speaking to different people, but my point is that in my experience, this is helped not hindered by being frank about our own beliefs. ‘This is my truth, tell me yours’. Being slippery or vague about this is not helpful- and yes, that is what we’re talking about in my opinion.

This notion that Transition is non-partisan, bilateral, and non-political is a misleading idea propogated by Hopkins and others- for understandable reasons. Transition is a radical, bottom-up political program for transforming energy, infrastructure and food production, in oppositional relation to the status quo- with a political strategy of triangulation to make it more likely to succeed. This is entirely understandable and reasonable, but let’s call it what it is. Any openness to other points of view seems strategic- real openness means willingness to change ideas and that does not seem to happen easily with Transition! Both a strength and a weakness of the movement, although I accept of course as Rob says that there is diversity of views within Transition- as there is in any activist group, political party or campaigning organisation.

Anyway, if hat-swapping does prove to be an effective long-term strategy to further Transition’s aims then more power to you, although appropriate behaviour and communication for different audiences is just common sense- as long as the core message is communicated with integrity. Maybe it’s just not for me, but let a thousand flowers bloom.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>my additional comment over at Transition Culture: </p>
<p>like any political group, Transition has diversity of values and beliefs. But Transition is almost entirely ‘green meme’ in Spiral Dynamics language although Spiral Dynamics is worthless in my opinion- even Wilber doesn’t use it any more- but you get what I mean (btw check out Esbjorn-Hargen and Zimmerman’s Integral Ecology if you haven’t yet- the only integral theory worth reading since SES- and Wilber himself is not useful on ecology.)</p>
<p>I agree of course on valuing different perspectives, and speaking to different people, but my point is that in my experience, this is helped not hindered by being frank about our own beliefs. ‘This is my truth, tell me yours’. Being slippery or vague about this is not helpful- and yes, that is what we’re talking about in my opinion.</p>
<p>This notion that Transition is non-partisan, bilateral, and non-political is a misleading idea propogated by Hopkins and others- for understandable reasons. Transition is a radical, bottom-up political program for transforming energy, infrastructure and food production, in oppositional relation to the status quo- with a political strategy of triangulation to make it more likely to succeed. This is entirely understandable and reasonable, but let’s call it what it is. Any openness to other points of view seems strategic- real openness means willingness to change ideas and that does not seem to happen easily with Transition! Both a strength and a weakness of the movement, although I accept of course as Rob says that there is diversity of views within Transition- as there is in any activist group, political party or campaigning organisation.</p>
<p>Anyway, if hat-swapping does prove to be an effective long-term strategy to further Transition’s aims then more power to you, although appropriate behaviour and communication for different audiences is just common sense- as long as the core message is communicated with integrity. Maybe it’s just not for me, but let a thousand flowers bloom.</p>
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		<title>Comment on New Snowblood CD out now by Wee Billy Fae Larkhall</title>
		<link>http://www.lukedevlin.org/home/2009/10/new-snowblood-cd-out-now/comment-page-1/#comment-697</link>
		<dc:creator>Wee Billy Fae Larkhall</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Dec 2010 03:03:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not heard the album, just had to get my protestant oar in.</description>
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		<title>Comment on About Me by Michael Gallagher</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael Gallagher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Dec 2010 01:59:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ban the burn - HAVE YOU SIGNED YET?
Communities all over Scotland are backing a new petition to the Scottish Parliament, calling for a ban on waste incineration and large-scale biomass burning. People fear that proposals for 16 new incinerators, burning up to 2 million tonnes of waste each year, will pollute the environment, undermine recycling, add to global warming and destroy resources.
Incinerators emit dozens of harmful chemicals. For example dioxins can disrupt the sexual and mental development of infants and cause cancer. In 2008 the Dundee incinerator was caught emitting 102 times the legal limit for dioxins. Instead of burning our waste, the Petition calls for serious investment in recycling (the Government is currently spending sweety money on this).   
Additionally, there are proposals for 5 very large biomass-powered generators. These would burn around 5 million tonnes of fuel annually, consisting mostly of imported virgin timber. As with waste incineration, this will produce large quantities of greenhouse gases and other pollutants. It will take at least 50 years for replacement trees to re-absorb the carbon emitted by these generators. 
Altogether the proposed waste incinerators and biomass burners would emit up to 11 million tonnes of CO2 each year, adding greatly to climate change.
For futher information, including how to sign the petition, click here - http://www.gainscotland.org.uk/petition.shtml
N.B. Signatures on the Scottish Government&#039;s e-petition website must be registered by 20 December.
PLEASE FORWARD THIS EMAIL - WE ARE SURE YOUR FRIENDS WILL WANT TO SIGN THIS IMPORTANT PETITION.
Many thanks for your support !!!!
Michael, Green Alternatives to Incineration in Scotland</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ban the burn &#8211; HAVE YOU SIGNED YET?<br />
Communities all over Scotland are backing a new petition to the Scottish Parliament, calling for a ban on waste incineration and large-scale biomass burning. People fear that proposals for 16 new incinerators, burning up to 2 million tonnes of waste each year, will pollute the environment, undermine recycling, add to global warming and destroy resources.<br />
Incinerators emit dozens of harmful chemicals. For example dioxins can disrupt the sexual and mental development of infants and cause cancer. In 2008 the Dundee incinerator was caught emitting 102 times the legal limit for dioxins. Instead of burning our waste, the Petition calls for serious investment in recycling (the Government is currently spending sweety money on this).<br />
Additionally, there are proposals for 5 very large biomass-powered generators. These would burn around 5 million tonnes of fuel annually, consisting mostly of imported virgin timber. As with waste incineration, this will produce large quantities of greenhouse gases and other pollutants. It will take at least 50 years for replacement trees to re-absorb the carbon emitted by these generators.<br />
Altogether the proposed waste incinerators and biomass burners would emit up to 11 million tonnes of CO2 each year, adding greatly to climate change.<br />
For futher information, including how to sign the petition, click here &#8211; <a href="http://www.gainscotland.org.uk/petition.shtml" rel="nofollow">http://www.gainscotland.org.uk/petition.shtml</a><br />
N.B. Signatures on the Scottish Government&#8217;s e-petition website must be registered by 20 December.<br />
PLEASE FORWARD THIS EMAIL &#8211; WE ARE SURE YOUR FRIENDS WILL WANT TO SIGN THIS IMPORTANT PETITION.<br />
Many thanks for your support !!!!<br />
Michael, Green Alternatives to Incineration in Scotland</p>
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		<title>Comment on &#8216;Sustainable Glasgow&#8217;, or unsustainable greenwash? (Updated May 2011) by Rees Gallacher</title>
		<link>http://www.lukedevlin.org/home/2010/01/sustainable-glasgow-or-unsustainable-greenwash/comment-page-1/#comment-308</link>
		<dc:creator>Rees Gallacher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Jul 2010 08:59:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hello Luke, this isn&#039;t really a comment for inclusion on the site, but rather a personal request, if you can help.  Having said that, it&#039;s a very interesting site, and I&#039;ll certainly check it out regularly - I live in Glasgow but had worked in Lanarkshire on environmental projects for about 12 years, and have finally, for various reasons, become too tired to carry on the endless fight against the council and its minions - for example one department would lend its full suppport to a community initiative (a garden and community composting centre), give you money, help with grants - and then land services would come in, cut down all your plants, spray weedkiller on everything and destroy the entire site.  No communication between departments at all.

However, enough of my personal gripes against council stupidity - despite this, I&#039;m still fully committed to doing my environmental bit, (I have my beloved car to atone for) and recently met a woman from an organisation who helps people identify bits of land and come to an agreement with the owner of the unused land to allow the community to cultivate it.  I&#039;m dying to get growing on the unused land behind my tenement in Govanhill, but can&#039;t remember the name of the organisation, and I thought you might know?  It&#039;s a land swop scheme - the individual or community uses the land, the owner gets part of the produce or similar bartar.  And there at least 3 more unused gardens out there, it&#039;s almost enough for a community farm......

Hoping you can help, and many thanks for doing all the work digging up the nonsense that is council policy and PR that keeps lazy folk like me informed!

Rees</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello Luke, this isn&#8217;t really a comment for inclusion on the site, but rather a personal request, if you can help.  Having said that, it&#8217;s a very interesting site, and I&#8217;ll certainly check it out regularly &#8211; I live in Glasgow but had worked in Lanarkshire on environmental projects for about 12 years, and have finally, for various reasons, become too tired to carry on the endless fight against the council and its minions &#8211; for example one department would lend its full suppport to a community initiative (a garden and community composting centre), give you money, help with grants &#8211; and then land services would come in, cut down all your plants, spray weedkiller on everything and destroy the entire site.  No communication between departments at all.</p>
<p>However, enough of my personal gripes against council stupidity &#8211; despite this, I&#8217;m still fully committed to doing my environmental bit, (I have my beloved car to atone for) and recently met a woman from an organisation who helps people identify bits of land and come to an agreement with the owner of the unused land to allow the community to cultivate it.  I&#8217;m dying to get growing on the unused land behind my tenement in Govanhill, but can&#8217;t remember the name of the organisation, and I thought you might know?  It&#8217;s a land swop scheme &#8211; the individual or community uses the land, the owner gets part of the produce or similar bartar.  And there at least 3 more unused gardens out there, it&#8217;s almost enough for a community farm&#8230;&#8230;</p>
<p>Hoping you can help, and many thanks for doing all the work digging up the nonsense that is council policy and PR that keeps lazy folk like me informed!</p>
<p>Rees</p>
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		<title>Comment on &#8216;Sustainable Glasgow&#8217;, or unsustainable greenwash? (Updated May 2011) by Mark Langdon</title>
		<link>http://www.lukedevlin.org/home/2010/01/sustainable-glasgow-or-unsustainable-greenwash/comment-page-1/#comment-46</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark Langdon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Feb 2010 22:21:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Luke
Thanks for this timely crtique of a sheep in wolfs clothing - while the concept of a Sustainable Glasgow does not tackle the consumer driven madness that consumes so many individuals and communities all the biogas plants in the world will not prevail against the current environmental &amp; social crisis.
While the public sector weds itself to a private sector addicted to profit at any price we will continue to dig ourselves and our fellow humans  into a deeper and potentially unfillable hole.
The concern of these type of documents is that while they fall short of the paradigm shidt required they fool many people in to thinking something of merit is being done. 
I would submit this piece to The Big Issue so it might reach a wider audience. Meanwhile thanks for your vigilance and the truth of your words.
best wishes
Mark</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Luke<br />
Thanks for this timely crtique of a sheep in wolfs clothing &#8211; while the concept of a Sustainable Glasgow does not tackle the consumer driven madness that consumes so many individuals and communities all the biogas plants in the world will not prevail against the current environmental &amp; social crisis.<br />
While the public sector weds itself to a private sector addicted to profit at any price we will continue to dig ourselves and our fellow humans  into a deeper and potentially unfillable hole.<br />
The concern of these type of documents is that while they fall short of the paradigm shidt required they fool many people in to thinking something of merit is being done.<br />
I would submit this piece to The Big Issue so it might reach a wider audience. Meanwhile thanks for your vigilance and the truth of your words.<br />
best wishes<br />
Mark</p>
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		<title>Comment on &#8216;Sustainable Glasgow&#8217;, or unsustainable greenwash? (Updated May 2011) by Mark Langdon</title>
		<link>http://www.lukedevlin.org/home/2010/01/sustainable-glasgow-or-unsustainable-greenwash/comment-page-1/#comment-45</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark Langdon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Feb 2010 22:21:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Luke
Thanks for this timely crtique of a sheep in wolfs clothing - while the concept of a Sustainable Glasgow does not tackle the consumer driven madness that consumes so many individuals and communities all the biogas plants in the world will not prevail against the current environmental &amp; social crisis.
While the public sector weds itself to a private sector addicted to profit at any price we will continue to dig ourselves and our fellow humans  into a deeper and potentially unfillable hole.
The concern of these type of documents is that while they fall short of the paradigm shidt required they fool many people in to thinking something of merit is being done. 
I would submit this piece to The Big Issue so it might reach a wider audience. Meanwhile thanks for your vigilance and the truth of your words.
best wishes
Mark</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Luke<br />
Thanks for this timely crtique of a sheep in wolfs clothing &#8211; while the concept of a Sustainable Glasgow does not tackle the consumer driven madness that consumes so many individuals and communities all the biogas plants in the world will not prevail against the current environmental &amp; social crisis.<br />
While the public sector weds itself to a private sector addicted to profit at any price we will continue to dig ourselves and our fellow humans  into a deeper and potentially unfillable hole.<br />
The concern of these type of documents is that while they fall short of the paradigm shidt required they fool many people in to thinking something of merit is being done.<br />
I would submit this piece to The Big Issue so it might reach a wider audience. Meanwhile thanks for your vigilance and the truth of your words.<br />
best wishes<br />
Mark</p>
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		<title>Comment on &#8216;Sustainable Glasgow&#8217;, or unsustainable greenwash? (Updated May 2011) by Airlie Hunter</title>
		<link>http://www.lukedevlin.org/home/2010/01/sustainable-glasgow-or-unsustainable-greenwash/comment-page-1/#comment-44</link>
		<dc:creator>Airlie Hunter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 31 Jan 2010 12:20:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>More Luke! Whatever the anti zero carbon people say, the bottom line is it all makes perfect sense to live within a low carbon budget, ecologically and financially it can only make for a better way of life. We need a strong core of well informed, well intentioned, down to earth people to articulate, audit and prevent any further wrong moves by those with current power to do so. I have been so heartened over past years to hear a growing number of your generation shout for a change in way we live. I saw in Sweden gas/biogas fuelled Combined Heat and Power systems being installed many years ago. It is just done - not endlessly discussed!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>More Luke! Whatever the anti zero carbon people say, the bottom line is it all makes perfect sense to live within a low carbon budget, ecologically and financially it can only make for a better way of life. We need a strong core of well informed, well intentioned, down to earth people to articulate, audit and prevent any further wrong moves by those with current power to do so. I have been so heartened over past years to hear a growing number of your generation shout for a change in way we live. I saw in Sweden gas/biogas fuelled Combined Heat and Power systems being installed many years ago. It is just done &#8211; not endlessly discussed!</p>
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		<title>Comment on &#8216;Sustainable Glasgow&#8217;, or unsustainable greenwash? (Updated May 2011) by Leeanna Devlin</title>
		<link>http://www.lukedevlin.org/home/2010/01/sustainable-glasgow-or-unsustainable-greenwash/comment-page-1/#comment-43</link>
		<dc:creator>Leeanna Devlin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Jan 2010 21:02:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I too, love this city, where I have lived for all of my 68 years. I&#039;ve been dissapointed many times over the years by the destruction of communities not to mention buildings which other cities would have been proud to preserve.
Many good things have developed also and a Sustainable Glasgow is a concept which we could all be proud of if only Glasgow City Council would come up with the goods and involve the many groups and individuals who have been striving at grass roots to achieve a sustainable Glasgow and Planet.
As a long time rate &amp; council tax payer I demand a real sustainable Glasgow. Thank you Luke for informing me of the facts of this shocking scheme.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I too, love this city, where I have lived for all of my 68 years. I&#8217;ve been dissapointed many times over the years by the destruction of communities not to mention buildings which other cities would have been proud to preserve.<br />
Many good things have developed also and a Sustainable Glasgow is a concept which we could all be proud of if only Glasgow City Council would come up with the goods and involve the many groups and individuals who have been striving at grass roots to achieve a sustainable Glasgow and Planet.<br />
As a long time rate &#038; council tax payer I demand a real sustainable Glasgow. Thank you Luke for informing me of the facts of this shocking scheme.</p>
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		<title>Comment on New Snowblood CD out now by Karl Buechner</title>
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		<dc:creator>Karl Buechner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Dec 2009 00:36:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Man, this is the heaviest thing since we covered the Rolling Stones.
SUPPORT PETA&#039;S CAMPAIGN FOR ETHICAL TREATMENT OF SHAPESHIFTERS.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Man, this is the heaviest thing since we covered the Rolling Stones.<br />
SUPPORT PETA&#8217;S CAMPAIGN FOR ETHICAL TREATMENT OF SHAPESHIFTERS.</p>
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		<title>Comment on New Snowblood CD out now by Luke Devlin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Luke Devlin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Dec 2009 13:55:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Glad you could stop by David! Curses, you have exposed our nefarious agenda. 

&lt;img src=&quot;http://scienceblogs.com/zooillogix/v%20lizard%20alien.jpg&quot; alt=&quot;The reptilian agenda&quot; /&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Glad you could stop by David! Curses, you have exposed our nefarious agenda. </p>
<p><img src="http://scienceblogs.com/zooillogix/v%20lizard%20alien.jpg" alt="The reptilian agenda" /></p>
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